In a lighthearted exchange between Gail Collins and Bret Stephens, they discuss the controversial actions of Governor Kristi Noem of South Dakota, who confessed to killing her dog Cricket for bad behavior in her new memoir. The discussion leads to doubts about her prospects as a potential running mate for Donald Trump due to the questionable decisions she has made, including the shooting of a goat out of rage. The conversation then shifts to campus protests, with both Collins and Stephens expressing concern about how the unrest may impact President Biden politically. They discuss the importance of free speech on campus and the need for protesters to uphold reasonable restrictions and respect others’ beliefs.
Stephens raises concerns about the potential negative political implications of the campus protests, comparing them to the unrest of the 1960s that ultimately led to Richard Nixon’s election. Collins acknowledges the importance of students speaking out on political issues but expresses worry about the protests turning antisemitic and creating a hostile environment for certain minority groups. The conversation delves into the potential consequences for Biden’s presidency and how his response to the protests may affect his image as a leader.
The discussion then turns to Trump’s ongoing trial and the return of Stormy Daniels, with Collins and Stephens questioning the impact of these events on politics. They agree that Trump’s supporters have been willing to overlook past scandals and that these trials may not significantly change the political landscape. They also express concerns about Biden’s age and physical appearance, noting the importance of him delivering impactful moments to rally support for his candidacy.
As the conversation continues, the focus shifts to the possibility of Trump winning another term and the potential consequences for the country. Stephens suggests that the only person who can defeat Trump is Trump himself, through his actions and choices that may alienate voters. Collins remains cautiously optimistic but acknowledges the uncertainty of the political climate. The discussion ends on a somewhat humorous note, with Collins invoking an old shtetl joke about Jewish optimists and pessimists to lighten the mood amidst the uncertainty of the political landscape.
